I played Friday night to as usual very bad results... With great humility, I am going to post the results... so.. back by popular demand.. my hand history from the night... Needless to say that this is going to be painful for me to post and I do it with great hesitation...
One problem at the beginning was seeing all the monkeys hit their hands.. and to make matters much worse.. my folded hands would have been golden... It is so hard to resist the urge not to play those bad hands or those so-so hands out of position... but anyway.. here it is.. As usual, feel free to comment away on my Monkey play... because as they say.. .Monkey see.. Monkey do..
Hand# | Pos | Hand | Net | Action | Comments |
1 | BB | 44 | -30 | C PFR | 3 players.. Flop 7Q3.. I Check- bet- call- I fold.. No setty, no betty… Turn.. 4 DOH!!!! |
2 | SB | J5 | -10 | F PFR | |
3 | But | KQ | -90 | 1 limper, I R | BB & limper call- 3 Plyr.. 8TT… check raised by BB.. I reraise and get capped.. I call.. Turn.. 4.. He bet, I fold.. Will I ever learn |
4 | Q3o | F | T2T..5..Q.. Pkt 4s wins.. Can you see my blood pressure rising? | ||
5 | 64o | F | |||
6 | T3s | F | |||
7 | UTG | 32o | F | Fish calls PFR with 53 and flops str8 | |
8 | BB | Q3o | -15 | F PFR | 25J..3..3.. Bp rising.. Woulda coulda shoulda… what am I saying.. Just don't look |
9 | SB | J9o | -10 | F to 3bet | |
10 | But | 74s | F | ||
11 | K8o | F PFR | |||
12 | Ako | -165 | R | 4 plyrs.. T88… bet.. 1 caller (fish from above).. Playing 60%... Turn K.. He checks and calls my bet…River J..he check raises me.. I 3bet… I lose to Q9o.. What does a stroke feel like? | |
13 | J4o | F PFR | |||
14 | UTG | J5s | F | JAJ Flop…Medic!!!! | |
15 | UTG | A6s | F | Would have split to A3 who was on button.. Due to new player I was UTG twice in a row | |
16 | BB | 85o | -15 | F PFR | TQK..8… 8… Why can't I be a fish… |
17 | SB | T6o | -10 | F PFR | Would have split.. PFR had 98o.. T9 won on board of JAT..K.. J.. PFRr bet out the whole way with T9 calling the whole way. Inconceivable!!! |
18 | But | 84o | F PFR | ||
19 | 66 | F to 3bet | I won't even go into details of this $652 pot.. Mind boggling | ||
20 | 42o | F | |||
21 | 97o | F | |||
22 | 32o | F | |||
23 | 93o | F | |||
24 | 92o | F | |||
25 | UTG | K8s | F | Quit here for this session..not in good mindset | |
26 | BB | Q7o | -15 | F PFR | Session 2… 2 tabling.. Position will be out of whack |
27 | SB | 83o | -10 | F | |
28 | 75o | F | |||
29 | BB | 62o | -15 | Check | 4 plyrs.. T64 Flop Check fold |
30 | Cut | AJo | -105 | R | SB calls.. 2 plyrs…882 flop… he checks and calls.. Turn 7.. He checks and calls… River A.. He checks and calls with AKo.. Nice play pal |
31 | Q2o | F PFR | |||
32 | SB | 15 | R | no callers.. Figures | |
33 | T2o | F PFR | |||
34 | But | T2o | F PFR | ||
35 | Cut | JTo | F | K59..9.. Q.. Doh!! No showdown so who knows..4 plyrs.. Flop and Turn checked around.. Who knew? | |
36 | 97o | F | |||
37 | 64o | F PFR | |||
38 | UTG | K9o | F | ||
39 | 99 | -30 | C | 5 plys.. J25 Flop.. UTG bets and I call.. 3 plyrs.. Turn A… I fold to bet | |
40 | BB | ATo | -15 | F to 3bet | Ace on Turn… no showdown though.. |
41 | SB | T2o | -10 | F PFR | |
42 | UTG | Q3o | F | ||
43 | 63o | F PFR | |||
44 | J8o | F PFR | |||
45 | BB | Q5o | -15 | F PFR | JQ2..5… Q Doh… Pkt 5s won.. I would have had a bigger FH.. As it was, it was a $462 pot |
46 | KTo | F | |||
47 | SB | 85s | -10 | F PFR | |
48 | A5o | F | |||
49 | But | 65s | F PFR | 3 callers of raise in front of me.. Had odds.. 5 tot plyrs.. 394…2… Q.. A5o won $447 pot.. I would have had bigger str8.. What is right play? | |
50 | UTG | T9o | F | ||
51 | 65o | F PFR | |||
52 | BB | 72o | -15 | F PFR | |
53 | SB | T8s | 15 | R | folded to me in SB.. I raise and win BB |
54 | Q2o | F | |||
55 | But | J5o | F | ||
56 | 62o | F PFR | |||
57 | K6o | F to 3bet | |||
58 | T4o | F | |||
59 | UTG | TT | 38 | R | BB calls.. 2 plyrs.. 742 Flop.. BB checks and folds |
60 | TT | 97 | C PFR | 3 plyrs.. 5J5 Flop.. Rasier bets and I raise and he calls.. 2 plyrs… turn A.. Check check.. River.. 6.. Check check.. I beat 44.. I truly am a wimp | |
61 | BB | A8o | 10 | Folded to me in BB | |
62 | SB | QJo | -10 | F PFR | No other callers so I folded…BB did call. 7Q2 flop..2..6… BB folded on river.. ?? |
63 | UTG | 76s | F | ||
64 | BB | A7o | -60 | 3 bet | 1 raiser so I raised.. 2T9 flop. I bet out.. He raises.. I folded.. Thoughts? |
65 | 88 | -30 | C | 5 plyrs..AKQ flop… I call bet (????).. And fold to turn bet | |
66 | SB | K6o | -10 | F to 3bet | |
67 | 87o | F | |||
68 | But | A4o | F PFR | SB 3bet.. BB capped. 9A4 flop… Turn J.. River 5.. KJs wins..JT orig raiser.. 88 3 bet..KJs capped… Dang!!! | |
69 | K3o | F | |||
70 | J9o | F | |||
71 | 44 | -15 | C | 3 plyrs.. AJ5 Flop.. I fold to bet | |
72 | Q7o | F | |||
73 | UTG | KJo | F | ||
74 | UTG | 42o | F | ||
75 | UTG | 75o | F | ||
76 | BB | 55 | -30 | C PFR | 2 plyrs..83T flop… check fold |
77 | BB | 43o | -15 | Check | Battle of Blinds.. T98 flop.. I check and fold |
78 | SB | QTo | -10 | F UTG R | |
79 | SB | Q7s | -15 | C | 3 plyrs.. J4T Flop.. Check check bet I fold |
80 | But | A6o | F | ||
81 | A3s | 25 | Blind Steal | ||
82 | 63o | F | |||
83 | 52o | F PFR | |||
84 | K6s | F | |||
85 | 86o | F PFR | |||
86 | J4o | F PFR | |||
87 | QJo | -15 | C | 2 Plyr.. 53K flop.. Check check.. Turn 8.. Ch ch..River 4… he bet, I fold | |
88 | 72o | F | |||
89 | 83o | F | |||
90 | UTG | A9s | -30 | C | gets raised.. 5 plyrs.. K2J flop.. I check fold |
91 | 63s | F | |||
92 | BB | K2o | -15 | F PFR | |
93 | SB | QTo | -15 | C | 4 PL..2JJ Flop check around…Turn 2.. Check fold.. No showdown |
94 | UTG | K7s | F | ||
95 | But | T8o | F to 3bet | Would have rivered str8 | |
96 | 54o | F | |||
97 | 63o | F | |||
98 | BB | J3o | -15 | F to 3bet | |
99 | 32o | F | |||
100 | SB | 33 | -15 | C | 5 PL.. 678 Flop. I check fold… A8s wins |
101 | 84o | F | |||
102 | UTG+1 | JTs | C | 3 PL.. A82.. None of my suit.. I fold to bet | |
103 | UTG | 97o | F | ||
104 | But | J4o | F | ||
105 | BB | JTo | -30 | C But R | 3 PL.. 578 Flop.. Checked around.. Turn 8.. Fold to bet |
106 | 98o | F | |||
107 | SB | Q8s | 28.5 | R | Folded to me. 2PL.. 2K4 w 2 of my suit.. I bet he folds |
108 | 74o | F | |||
109 | But | 64o | F | ||
110 | K7o | F | |||
111 | J3o | F | |||
112 | Q4o | F | |||
113 | 43o | F PFR | |||
114 | 92o | F | |||
115 | 86o | F | |||
116 | 85s | F | |||
117 | UTG | A8o | F | ||
118 | UTG | T5o | F | ||
119 | BB | 72o | -15 | F PFR | |
120 | BB | 75o | -15 | F PFR | 772 Flop… Doh!!! Still struggling with blind defense. |
121 | SB | 74o | -10 | F PFR | |
122 | But | QTo | F PFR | ||
123 | SB | 96s | -10 | F UTG R | |
124 | But | 97o | F | ||
125 | Cut | 97s | F | ||
126 | J2o | F PFR | |||
127 | Q8s | F to 3bet | |||
128 | 86o | F | |||
129 | Q4o | F | |||
130 | UTG | Q5s | F | ||
131 | A5o | F | |||
132 | A5o | F | |||
133 | BB | 96o | -15 | Check | 3PL..A86 flop..check fold |
134 | SB | J6s | -10 | F PFR | |
135 | UTG | J7o | F | ||
136 | But | 65o | F PFR | ||
137 | BB | T8s | -15 | F to 3bet | would have hit runner runner str8.. No showdown. |
138 | A2o | F PFR | |||
139 | T6o | F PFR | |||
140 | SB | A6o | F PFR | loose player raise… but no other callers so I fold | |
141 | Q4o | F | |||
142 | But | T4o | F UTG R | ||
143 | K7o | F to 3bet | |||
144 | 82o | F | |||
145 | UTG | Q8o | F | ||
146 | KJo | -30 | C | 3PL..8T7 Flop.. SB bet I call.. Turn T.. SB bet and I fold… | |
147 | BB | KQo | -120 | R | 2 limps incl SB.. I raise.. 3J5 2 hearts flop.. I bet get raised and I call.. Turn Th.. I bet he calls.. River 4c I bet he calls.. He wins with Ato |
148 | 42o | F | |||
149 | SB | K4o | -15 | C | 4 PL..A92 Flop.. Check fold |
150 | J3o | F | |||
151 | Q4o | F | |||
152 | But | T9o | C | 4PL.. K35 flop.. Checked around.. Turn K.. Checked around..river 4.. Checked .. K7 wins | |
153 | UTG | T7s | F | ||
154 | K8o | F | |||
155 | BB | J2o | -15 | F to 3bet | |
156 | A6s | -30 | C | 2 limpers.. I call gets raised I call.. 4 PL.. KTQ flop.. Bet and a call and I fold.. Turn… J of course.. Would have split | |
157 | SB | 93s | -45 | C | Call and get raised… I call Q83 flop.. I check call Turn A.. I check fold |
158 | J6o | F | |||
159 | But | J7o | F PFR | ||
160 | UTG | 53o | F | ||
161 | Cut | KQo | -92 | R | folded to me.. I raise.. 3 bet by SB (loose PL) and I cap.. 83J flop.. He bets, I raise, he 3bets and raise all in… J… 5.. He wins with TT |
162 | BB | 73o | -15 | F PFR | |
163 | SB | A5o | 61.8 | C PFR | 4PL..436 Flop.. I bet out.. Get raised and I cap..I'm all in.. K… 7.. I split with 45 |
164 | 75s | F PFR | |||
165 | K7o | F | |||
166 | T8o | F PFR | |||
167 | J7o | F | |||
168 | 92o | F | |||
169 | UTG | T9o | F | ||
170 | BB | J9s | 15 | R | folded to sB who calls .. I raise and he folds |
171 | SB | J3o | F PFR | ||
172 | But | 84o | F PFR | ||
173 | 82s | F | |||
174 | T2s | F | |||
175 | 53o | F | |||
176 | A2o | F UTG R | |||
177 | UTG | Q5o | F | ||
178 | BB | Q8s | -15 | F PFR | |
179 | SB | 33 | -10 | F to 3bet | |
180 | But | A7s | F PFR | ||
181 | 82o | F PFR | |||
182 | 52o | F | |||
183 | 84o | F | |||
184 | UTG | T6o | F | ||
185 | BB | 86o | -15 | F PFR | |
186 | SB | AQo | -60 | C 3bet | gets capped.. I call (????).. Flop 885.. I fold bet and raise. AJs wins with flush on river |
187 | But | KK | 109 | R | get all in preflop.. 579 Flop… K… T.. Figures I get the cards with no $.. Others had QQ and TT… wow |
188 | QTs | F PFR | |||
189 | T4o | F | |||
190 | 52o | F PFR | |||
191 | T7o | F PFR | |||
192 | UTG | A3o | F | ||
193 | BB | J9o | -60 | Check | 5 PL..Q4T Flop.. I check call.. Still 5 PL.. Turn 3… check call River.. 4.. Check fold.. Drawing… Dead.. |
194 | SB | J8o | -10 | F PFR | |
195 | But | T6o | F PFR | ||
196 | 42o | F | |||
197 | 33 | -30 | R | 1 caller.. Q48 Flop.. He bets I fold.. I'm short stacked | |
198 | 83o | F PFR | |||
199 | UTG | 72o | F | ||
200 | BB | 54o | -30 | C PFR | 2 PL. KQ6 flop.. I check fold |
201 | SB | QJo | -27 | ALLIN | T78…J… T… Lost to AT |
9 comments:
Will--
We must be twins! If it's any solace, it could be worse (meaning read about the last 24 hours).
cc
That was rough, brother! I am still amazed at the loose play bo others here.. However, I think your game might be no limit. It looks like you made all the right decisions, but it's hard to get people to fold in limit hold em. Plus you had some real crappy cards, not much you can do about that. Hang in there, bro!
By the way, I nearly popped another 800. I shot 289-254-289=732. In the last game, the lanes were breaking down and I was paying the maximum penalty. I think I had 3 splits. I left a 9 pin on the 289 game.
You may be missing a fundamental piece of information that may have a direct impact on your frustration level when you fold but then see the "perfect card(s)" hit the board.
RNGs (random number generators) use "seeds" - non-sequential and unrelated values and events not under the control of the RNG itself - as a starting point for producting the next random value produced.
On many poker sites, some of the seeds their RNG uses to produce the number that dictates which card(s) are next off the deck are the mouse clicks (or button presses) of the players in the game.
This means when you fold (by clicking the "FOLD" button) you cause the RNG to produce a DIFFERENT random value than you would if you clicked the "BET" or the "RAISE" button.
Stated simply, this means that when you fold, the cards that come thereafter are DIFFERENT CARDS than they would be if you had bet or raised!
There is simply NO value in lamenting the hand you "woulda, coulda, shoulda" had - if you were still in the hand you "wouldn'ta, couldn'ta, shouldn'ta" had it!
anonymous:
i think you may be smoking a little too much of the "seed".
will:
what say you to fluffer's thought that NL might be your game.
i love these things, but i like them much more when i see a winning session. however, the losing sessions are the chance to really evaluate and when you go as far keeping up with the stats this well, you can really see yours and others play...
I have gone up limits and slaughtered myself before.. just because you have the bankroll to play 15/30 does not mean you have to. Take a few days back beating up your usual game and look at your 15/30 experience. Just let it set in. Are you being driven crazy by the variance in the game? Is it the players? Does the added aggression get to you? Do the amounts scare you? Are you playing differently because of some beats? Sometimes you just have to get out of the situation for a few days or a week and then you can clearly see what your issue is and take a fresh crack at it.. anyway, best of luck and I hope you kill the game.
I have some informational information that might make you feel better about what you're not feeling good about:
A lot of poker sites actually "seed" their RNGs with the profanity you utter when someone sucks out on you.
This means that when a donktard who has called you all the way to the river and beats your top two-pair with a two outer set of deuces, you should not yell "FUCK!" at the top of your lungs because this will change the cards you are subsequently dealt on the next hand.
So next time you verbally call your opponent a Goddamned Moron, you could be costing yourself pocket aces. You were probably cursing a lot during this session and it clearly cost you some decent cards.
Hey Will, got to you from Scurvy.
Tough session, hope things get better for you.
Take a look at hands 64, 65, 90 and 102. I fold those preflop.
Actually, I fold #65 on the flop, sorry. No reason to take one off there.
Wow! That was both painful and enjoyable to read! An impressive combination.
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