Tuesday, November 22, 2005

Monkey See Monkey Do

I still don't have my PC back... I get it back tonight....

I played Friday night to as usual very bad results... With great humility, I am going to post the results... so.. back by popular demand.. my hand history from the night... Needless to say that this is going to be painful for me to post and I do it with great hesitation...

One problem at the beginning was seeing all the monkeys hit their hands.. and to make matters much worse.. my folded hands would have been golden... It is so hard to resist the urge not to play those bad hands or those so-so hands out of position... but anyway.. here it is.. As usual, feel free to comment away on my Monkey play... because as they say.. .Monkey see.. Monkey do..


Hand#PosHandNetActionComments
1BB44-30C PFR3 players.. Flop 7Q3.. I Check- bet- call- I fold.. No setty, no betty… Turn.. 4 DOH!!!!
2SBJ5-10F PFR
3ButKQ-901 limper, I RBB & limper call- 3 Plyr.. 8TT… check raised by BB.. I reraise and get capped.. I call.. Turn.. 4.. He bet, I fold.. Will I ever learn
4Q3oFT2T..5..Q.. Pkt 4s wins.. Can you see my blood pressure rising?
564oF
6T3sF
7UTG32oFFish calls PFR with 53 and flops str8
8BBQ3o-15F PFR25J..3..3.. Bp rising.. Woulda coulda shoulda… what am I saying.. Just don't look
9SBJ9o-10F to 3bet
10But74sF
11K8oF PFR
12Ako-165R4 plyrs.. T88… bet.. 1 caller (fish from above).. Playing 60%... Turn K.. He checks and calls my bet…River J..he check raises me.. I 3bet… I lose to Q9o.. What does a stroke feel like?
13J4oF PFR
14UTGJ5sFJAJ Flop…Medic!!!!
15UTGA6sFWould have split to A3 who was on button.. Due to new player I was UTG twice in a row
16BB85o-15F PFRTQK..8… 8… Why can't I be a fish…
17SBT6o-10F PFRWould have split.. PFR had 98o.. T9 won on board of JAT..K.. J.. PFRr bet out the whole way with T9 calling the whole way. Inconceivable!!!
18But84oF PFR
1966F to 3betI won't even go into details of this $652 pot.. Mind boggling
2042oF
2197oF
2232oF
2393oF
2492oF
25UTGK8sFQuit here for this session..not in good mindset
26BBQ7o-15F PFRSession 2… 2 tabling.. Position will be out of whack
27SB83o-10F
2875oF
29BB62o-15Check4 plyrs.. T64 Flop Check fold
30CutAJo-105RSB calls.. 2 plyrs…882 flop… he checks and calls.. Turn 7.. He checks and calls… River A.. He checks and calls with AKo.. Nice play pal
31Q2oF PFR
32SBQQ15Rno callers.. Figures
33T2oF PFR
34ButT2oF PFR
35CutJToFK59..9.. Q.. Doh!! No showdown so who knows..4 plyrs.. Flop and Turn checked around.. Who knew?
3697oF
3764oF PFR
38UTGK9oF
3999-30C5 plys.. J25 Flop.. UTG bets and I call.. 3 plyrs.. Turn A… I fold to bet
40BBATo-15F to 3betAce on Turn… no showdown though..
41SBT2o-10F PFR
42UTGQ3oF
4363oF PFR
44J8oF PFR
45BBQ5o-15F PFRJQ2..5… Q Doh… Pkt 5s won.. I would have had a bigger FH.. As it was, it was a $462 pot
46KToF
47SB85s-10F PFR
48A5oF
49But65sF PFR3 callers of raise in front of me.. Had odds.. 5 tot plyrs.. 394…2… Q.. A5o won $447 pot.. I would have had bigger str8.. What is right play?
50UTGT9oF
5165oF PFR
52BB72o-15F PFR
53SBT8s15Rfolded to me in SB.. I raise and win BB
54Q2oF
55ButJ5oF
5662oF PFR
57K6oF to 3bet
58T4oF
59UTGTT38RBB calls.. 2 plyrs.. 742 Flop.. BB checks and folds
60TT97C PFR3 plyrs.. 5J5 Flop.. Rasier bets and I raise and he calls.. 2 plyrs… turn A.. Check check.. River.. 6.. Check check.. I beat 44.. I truly am a wimp
61BBA8o10Folded to me in BB
62SBQJo-10F PFRNo other callers so I folded…BB did call. 7Q2 flop..2..6… BB folded on river.. ??
63UTG76sF
64BBA7o-603 bet1 raiser so I raised.. 2T9 flop. I bet out.. He raises.. I folded.. Thoughts?
6588-30C5 plyrs..AKQ flop… I call bet (????).. And fold to turn bet
66SBK6o-10F to 3bet
6787oF
68ButA4oF PFRSB 3bet.. BB capped. 9A4 flop… Turn J.. River 5.. KJs wins..JT orig raiser.. 88 3 bet..KJs capped… Dang!!!
69K3oF
70J9oF
7144-15C3 plyrs.. AJ5 Flop.. I fold to bet
72Q7oF
73UTGKJoF
74UTG42oF
75UTG75oF
76BB55-30C PFR2 plyrs..83T flop… check fold
77BB43o-15CheckBattle of Blinds.. T98 flop.. I check and fold
78SBQTo-10F UTG R
79SBQ7s-15C3 plyrs.. J4T Flop.. Check check bet I fold
80ButA6oF
81A3s25Blind Steal
8263oF
8352oF PFR
84K6sF
8586oF PFR
86J4oF PFR
87QJo-15C2 Plyr.. 53K flop.. Check check.. Turn 8.. Ch ch..River 4… he bet, I fold
8872oF
8983oF
90UTGA9s-30Cgets raised.. 5 plyrs.. K2J flop.. I check fold
9163sF
92BBK2o-15F PFR
93SBQTo-15C4 PL..2JJ Flop check around…Turn 2.. Check fold.. No showdown
94UTGK7sF
95ButT8oF to 3betWould have rivered str8
9654oF
9763oF
98BBJ3o-15F to 3bet
9932oF
100SB33-15C5 PL.. 678 Flop. I check fold… A8s wins
10184oF
102UTG+1JTsC3 PL.. A82.. None of my suit.. I fold to bet
103UTG97oF
104ButJ4oF
105BBJTo-30C But R3 PL.. 578 Flop.. Checked around.. Turn 8.. Fold to bet
10698oF
107SBQ8s28.5RFolded to me. 2PL.. 2K4 w 2 of my suit.. I bet he folds
10874oF
109But64oF
110K7oF
111J3oF
112Q4oF
11343oF PFR
11492oF
11586oF
11685sF
117UTGA8oF
118UTGT5oF
119BB72o-15F PFR
120BB75o-15F PFR772 Flop… Doh!!! Still struggling with blind defense.
121SB74o-10F PFR
122ButQToF PFR
123SB96s-10F UTG R
124But97oF
125Cut97sF
126J2oF PFR
127Q8sF to 3bet
12886oF
129Q4oF
130UTGQ5sF
131A5oF
132A5oF
133BB96o-15Check3PL..A86 flop..check fold
134SBJ6s-10F PFR
135UTGJ7oF
136But65oF PFR
137BBT8s-15F to 3betwould have hit runner runner str8.. No showdown.
138A2oF PFR
139T6oF PFR
140SBA6oF PFRloose player raise… but no other callers so I fold
141Q4oF
142ButT4oF UTG R
143K7oF to 3bet
14482oF
145UTGQ8oF
146KJo-30C3PL..8T7 Flop.. SB bet I call.. Turn T.. SB bet and I fold…
147BBKQo-120R2 limps incl SB.. I raise.. 3J5 2 hearts flop.. I bet get raised and I call.. Turn Th.. I bet he calls.. River 4c I bet he calls.. He wins with Ato
14842oF
149SBK4o-15C4 PL..A92 Flop.. Check fold
150J3oF
151Q4oF
152ButT9oC4PL.. K35 flop.. Checked around.. Turn K.. Checked around..river 4.. Checked .. K7 wins
153UTGT7sF
154K8oF
155BBJ2o-15F to 3bet
156A6s-30C2 limpers.. I call gets raised I call.. 4 PL.. KTQ flop.. Bet and a call and I fold.. Turn… J of course.. Would have split
157SB93s-45CCall and get raised… I call Q83 flop.. I check call Turn A.. I check fold
158J6oF
159ButJ7oF PFR
160UTG53oF
161CutKQo-92Rfolded to me.. I raise.. 3 bet by SB (loose PL) and I cap.. 83J flop.. He bets, I raise, he 3bets and raise all in… J… 5.. He wins with TT
162BB73o-15F PFR
163SBA5o61.8C PFR4PL..436 Flop.. I bet out.. Get raised and I cap..I'm all in.. K… 7.. I split with 45
16475sF PFR
165K7oF
166T8oF PFR
167J7oF
16892oF
169UTGT9oF
170BBJ9s15Rfolded to sB who calls .. I raise and he folds
171SBJ3oF PFR
172But84oF PFR
17382sF
174T2sF
17553oF
176A2oF UTG R
177UTGQ5oF
178BBQ8s-15F PFR
179SB33-10F to 3bet
180ButA7sF PFR
18182oF PFR
18252oF
18384oF
184UTGT6oF
185BB86o-15F PFR
186SBAQo-60C 3betgets capped.. I call (????).. Flop 885.. I fold bet and raise. AJs wins with flush on river
187ButKK109Rget all in preflop.. 579 Flop… K… T.. Figures I get the cards with no $.. Others had QQ and TT… wow
188QTsF PFR
189T4oF
19052oF PFR
191T7oF PFR
192UTGA3oF
193BBJ9o-60Check5 PL..Q4T Flop.. I check call.. Still 5 PL.. Turn 3… check call River.. 4.. Check fold.. Drawing… Dead..
194SBJ8o-10F PFR
195ButT6oF PFR
19642oF
19733-30R1 caller.. Q48 Flop.. He bets I fold.. I'm short stacked
19883oF PFR
199UTG72oF
200BB54o-30C PFR2 PL. KQ6 flop.. I check fold
201SBQJo-27ALLINT78…J… T… Lost to AT

So needless to say, my 15/30 days may be over. I have had a copule of winning sessions since the above so we will see how it goes.

11 comments:

cc said...

Will--

We must be twins! If it's any solace, it could be worse (meaning read about the last 24 hours).

cc

GaryC said...

Ugh.......just, ugh!

Hang in there buddy, it will turn around.

G

Fluffer said...

That was rough, brother! I am still amazed at the loose play bo others here.. However, I think your game might be no limit. It looks like you made all the right decisions, but it's hard to get people to fold in limit hold em. Plus you had some real crappy cards, not much you can do about that. Hang in there, bro!

By the way, I nearly popped another 800. I shot 289-254-289=732. In the last game, the lanes were breaking down and I was paying the maximum penalty. I think I had 3 splits. I left a 9 pin on the 289 game.

Anonymous said...

You may be missing a fundamental piece of information that may have a direct impact on your frustration level when you fold but then see the "perfect card(s)" hit the board.

RNGs (random number generators) use "seeds" - non-sequential and unrelated values and events not under the control of the RNG itself - as a starting point for producting the next random value produced.

On many poker sites, some of the seeds their RNG uses to produce the number that dictates which card(s) are next off the deck are the mouse clicks (or button presses) of the players in the game.

This means when you fold (by clicking the "FOLD" button) you cause the RNG to produce a DIFFERENT random value than you would if you clicked the "BET" or the "RAISE" button.

Stated simply, this means that when you fold, the cards that come thereafter are DIFFERENT CARDS than they would be if you had bet or raised!

There is simply NO value in lamenting the hand you "woulda, coulda, shoulda" had - if you were still in the hand you "wouldn'ta, couldn'ta, shouldn'ta" had it!

TripJax said...

anonymous:

i think you may be smoking a little too much of the "seed".

will:

what say you to fluffer's thought that NL might be your game.

i love these things, but i like them much more when i see a winning session. however, the losing sessions are the chance to really evaluate and when you go as far keeping up with the stats this well, you can really see yours and others play...

SirFWALGMan said...

I have gone up limits and slaughtered myself before.. just because you have the bankroll to play 15/30 does not mean you have to. Take a few days back beating up your usual game and look at your 15/30 experience. Just let it set in. Are you being driven crazy by the variance in the game? Is it the players? Does the added aggression get to you? Do the amounts scare you? Are you playing differently because of some beats? Sometimes you just have to get out of the situation for a few days or a week and then you can clearly see what your issue is and take a fresh crack at it.. anyway, best of luck and I hope you kill the game.

Mourn said...

I have some informational information that might make you feel better about what you're not feeling good about:

A lot of poker sites actually "seed" their RNGs with the profanity you utter when someone sucks out on you.

This means that when a donktard who has called you all the way to the river and beats your top two-pair with a two outer set of deuces, you should not yell "FUCK!" at the top of your lungs because this will change the cards you are subsequently dealt on the next hand.

So next time you verbally call your opponent a Goddamned Moron, you could be costing yourself pocket aces. You were probably cursing a lot during this session and it clearly cost you some decent cards.

Never-Limp said...

Hey Will, got to you from Scurvy.

Tough session, hope things get better for you.

Take a look at hands 64, 65, 90 and 102. I fold those preflop.

Never-Limp said...

Actually, I fold #65 on the flop, sorry. No reason to take one off there.

GaryC said...

I'm with Mourn. No yelling Fuck! at the top of your lungs after a bad beat.

Simply pull your tin foil hat down tighter around your ears and start chanting your two cards as loud as you can.

That should do it.

G

HighOnPoker said...

Wow! That was both painful and enjoyable to read! An impressive combination.

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