Thursday, August 13, 2009

More explanation to Hand #1, Odds call? OBFV?

Yesterday, I posted this hand:

Villain is 23/14/inf over 44 hands.

Hand #1
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players -
The Official Hand History Converter

CO: $126.95
BTN: $111.55
Hero (SB): $178.00
BB: $201.15
UTG: $74.55
UTG+1: $100.00
MP1: $41.35
MP2: $102.30

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 9d 9h
5 folds, BTN raises to $3, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($7.00) Ad Qd 9s (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($15.00) Td (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7, Hero calls $7

River: ($29.00) 6s (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $20, Hero folds

I don't remember where I read it, it might have been Gnome; but the gist is why get the chips in as a 60/40 fav when you can get them in as a 75% fav. As it turned out, one of the scare cards that I didn't want to see turned up. Now, of course, all the chips weren't going in a this point.
I don't know. It just seemed closer than everybody is saying.

The next hand is a small inconsequential hand; but since I'm not really a math guy is this an easy call getting 2 to 1? Villain is a 45/20/3.3 guy over just 56 hands. 3bets 5.3%

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
The Official Hand History Converter

UTG: $19.50
UTG+1: $100.00
UTG+2: $222.90
MP1: $60.00
MP2: $100.00
Hero (CO): $116.80
BTN: $110.00
SB: $19.00
BB: $14.60

MP2 posts a big blind ($1)

Pre Flop: ($2.50) Hero is CO with Th Qh
4 folds, MP2 checks, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $14.60 all in, 1 fold, Hero ??

And finally, this hand.

One thing for sure when you are playing 12 tables, you don't always play hands optimally and can be put into some tough spots. This is against the same guy as above.

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players -
The Official Hand History Converter

MP2: $100.00
CO: $231.70
BTN: $62.75
SB: $94.50
Hero (BB): $112.30
UTG: $106.50
UTG+1: $15.50
MP1: $28.25

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with Kh 9d
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, 3 folds, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($3.00) Kd 7c 9c (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, MP1 calls $2, SB folds

Turn: ($7.00) Th (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: ($15.00) 5s (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $21.25 all in, Hero ??

I meant to c/r the turn; but since I didn't do you call against this apparent meaningless river card?

Have a nice day!!!


Klopzi said...

Hand 1: QTs vs ??
I'd fold. You'll find a better spot against Villain. Sure, he might be raising because you've made an obvious attempt to steal dead money. But it doesn't matter. BB hasn't given you any indication that he's a loose 3-bettor. And he was willing to 3-bet OOP.

Hand 2: K9 vs. ??
I'd bet this river. As played, call. You kinda screwed yourself by playing the turn so passively and then checking the river. I generally play the hand more straightforwardly: bet the flop, bet the turn, shove the river. Easy game.

noldmax said...

In the QT hand, it's pretty close. Villain's range is probably pairs and K-x or A-x, a range that is msybe close to the right odds to call getting 2-1, but I'll usually fold this kind of spot.

In the K9 hand, I'm definitely calling off. You beat AK/KQ/KJ, bluffs, missed draws, and a bunch of 2-pair hands. Pretty easy call IMO.

WillWonka said...

I folded both of them.

Gnome said...

It can be good to wait for the turn in some spots, but I don't think your 99 set is one of them.
Flopped sets are too strong not to put in a check-raise on the flop. You have so much equity already with a set that waiting for a non-scarecard on the turn will cost you more money than the additional equity would save.

spritpot said...

I can't really imagine folding either of these hands.


Alan aka RecessRampage said...

What Brue said. There were two shorties in the blind. I'm guessing they shove a fair amount... if you're not gonna call, don't raise with QT.

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