Friday, August 07, 2009

Coolers and Bad Beats, such joy.. Turn Decision

I just always follow the same pattern. Win 3 or 4 buyins over the course of a couple of days and then blow it all in one day on various types of beats. Coolers, Bad Beats and Bad Plays.. Dang

Here was a turn decision against a good player.

Villain is 15/12/9.5 over 325 hands.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Hold'em - 8 players -
The Official Hand History Converter

UTG: $30.45
UTG+1: $100.40
MP1: $25.00
MP2: $80.80
CO: $53.75
Hero (BTN): $55.50
SB: $25.00
BB: $130.00

MP1 posts a big blind ($0.50)

Pre Flop: ($1.00) Hero is BTN with Kc Jc
3 folds, MP1 checks, MP2 raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, 2 folds

What about the call her on BTN? Is raising better? MP2 folds to 3bets 80%.

Flop: ($5.00) Jd Td 2h (2 players)
MP2 bets $3, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($11.00) 3s (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $6, MP2 raises to $16, Hero ???

One stat I didn't see until now is this villain check raises 50% on turn (only 3 times out of 6 opportunities). Does that change your decision?

Have a good weekend!!!


Klopzi said...

I typically fold here. Villain is tight and he's willing to put you to the test for your stack on the turn.

The bet/check-raise line is typically a good one to use against frequent floaters. Had you floated Villain a lot? Had others at your table floated him?

If you think Villain is capable of c/r with air in this spot as a means of countering a float, you could call an possible call a small bet on the river or get a free showdown.

As for pre-flop, I don't mind a 3-bet. I tend to 3-bet tight players too much and get punished.

To recap: as played, fold > call > raise.

noldmax said...

PF call is fine. I prefer 3-betting for value (stronger hands) and with air, and calling with hands like KJ.

Pretty gross turn spot. I think I would lean towards calling without knowing anything about check-raising stats, but given what you do know, I probably lean back towards calling. It's only 6 hands, but 3 out of 6 ain't no fluke, and he has the 9.5 agg factor to back it up. This means that draws and air are going to be part of his range, along with AA-KK/TT/JT/22/33. I call turn and plan to call river unless it is really foul, like a Ax/Qx/9d.

WillWonka said...

Being the call monkey that I am, I floated his check raise..

River was another jack.

Villain checked to me. Anybody bet? How much? Pot is around $43.

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