Wednesday, September 16, 2009

Sometimes it doesn't matter what your cards are and Another early Decision

I am very guilty of making plays based solely on stats. Here is one of my first hands of the night.

Hand #1

Villain was 18/13/3.7 over 226 hands
steals blinds 75% and Cbet 81%

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Hold'em - 8 players -
The Official Hand History Converter

UTG+1: $385.40
MP1: $100.00
MP2: $103.50
CO: $103.15
BTN: $20.00
SB: $166.25
Hero (BB): $100.00
UTG: $179.65

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 8d Th
4 folds, CO raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 5s Ah 9h (2 players)
Hero checks, CO requests TIME, CO bets $4, Hero raises to $13, CO folds

One could argue that I should just 3 bet; but I often like to pick up the extra bet on his flop Continuation bet.

Hand #2

Villain is 50/50/inf over 2 hand.

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
The Official Hand History Converter

SB: $384.40
BB: $100.00
UTG: $103.50
UTG+1: $99.00
UTG+2: $100.00
MP1: $20.00
MP2: $165.75
Hero (CO): $108.80
BTN: $179.65

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 5s As
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $2, 2 folds, MP2 calls $2, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($9.00) 5d 3c 2s (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets $9, MP2 folds, Hero calls $9, SB folds

Turn: ($27.00) 4s (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $27, Hero calls $27

River: ($81.00) 3h (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $61 all in, Hero ??

Have a nice day!!!


Klopzi said...

Hand 1: Even though Villain steals a lot, his raise is from the CO, implying a slightly tighter range. And your hand, T8o, is pretty awful. If you think he's stealing, why not simply 3-bet with a hand that does not play well in raised pots or out of position?

Hand 2: You hit your miracle card on the turn. Why not bet or check-shove? On the river, I think you need to call. I think Villain is making a terrible bet with an overpair.

I was also many of the hands you show us, you seem to fast-play your bluffs/semi-bluffs and slow-play your big hands. Many times, this gets you in some pretty tough spots. Do you ever play your hands in a straight-forward manner (check-fold garbage, raise/check-raise big hands)? Granted, your results are infinitely better than mine so I'm wondering where my thinking may be wrong here.

Henrik said...

Hand #2

You could shove on the turn already, but I like the call as a sort of slowplay. In this particular hand it probably hadn't matter - money would have went into the middle anyway.

The call on the turn is a complete no-brainer. You're getting about 2,5 to 1 so we would have to assume he holds 66 or 67 more than 70% of the time. No way! But as usual when board comes 5-4-3-2 we have to take a couple of split pots into account.

If villain held an overpair I think his shove was terrible. Giving away money...

Henrik said...

edit: I meant the call on the river obv.

WillWonka said...

Kopszi. Just a note, the steal stats that I give are from "steal" position which includes the cutoff. I also track steal from button; but overall, I look at the general steal from cutoff and button to gauge his tendency to steal. I think I said in my post that many times I do 3 bet; but if he has a high cbet %, I'll wait to check raise.

As far as standard play. I do mostly play standardly and fast play my big hands; but one thing I feel is important is to change things up and not play the same type hands the same way. Whether or not people at my limits pay attention to that is another story.

You guys both pegged it on Hand #2. He pushed with pocket 9s. He was obviously trying to respresent the 6 or 76 even. Lucky for me, he didn't have it.

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